Subject: re:[ffml] Questions suggestions and another idea
From: Richard Robinson
Date: 6/13/1997, 9:08 PM
Reply-to:
rik@cfanet.com

On 6 xxx -1, Richard Robinson wrote:

4. if a cursed person drowned in a Jhusenkyo pool 
would the
person who fell in get the original body or the curse 
of
the drowned person  or a two stage curse. E.G. Ranma
drowns. Ryoga falls in does he become Ranma or 
Ranma-chan
or Ranma and if hit with cold water again then 
Ranma-chan.

No.  Someone who falls into a Jusenkyo pool changes 
shape as if he/she
were born in that body.  For example:  When Ranma fell 
into Nyannichuan
his new body was the body he would have if he was born a 
girl.  This is
less obvious with animal than it is with people.  The 
evidence from this
comes from the Herb seris where Herb falls into the 
Nyannichuan and his
new body is _totally_ different from Ranma's (besides 
being female of
course).  I think if someone cursed were to drown in a 
Jusenkyo pool the
curse would bestow what ever body they were in at the 
time to the next
victim.  (if Ryoga were to fall into the Spring of 
Drowned Ranma he would
be cursed with turning into a female when splashed with 
cold water (I'm
assuming Ranma drowned in cold water).  The question 
whether the Jusenkyo
pools can counteract each other hasn't been answered yet 
(ie could the
Nannichuan really cure Ranma?).

The Herb story also suggests that the pools ARE 
specific... the monkey that
Herb tossed into the damned spring came out looking 
exactly like Ranma's
female side.  You can make a pretty good case for it 
either way, really.

After all, it'd be hard to say that P-chan is what Ryouga 
would look like
if he had been born a pig.

The bottom line is that there is NO consistent data upon 
which one can base
any firm predictions about Jyusenkyou curses... Tarou 
"proves" that the
curses are additive - in that exposure to the waters of 
another pool gave
him BOTH curses...

If Zen were in Ranma's shoes, and Zen knew about Tarou 
what Ranma knows,
Zen sure as hell would never go *near* Jyusenkyou again.


Hope that helps.

thanx for listening to me rant and rave

AJ

Zen no Itan-sha
RIck here:
 I agree the data is contradictory but that probably is 
because each pool is different with different effects, 
after all some pools affect the mind while  other pools 
apparently don't. I haven't seen the manga with Herb. Is it 
certain that he fell in the same pool as Ranma? After all 
there is more than one male pool (drowned man and virtuous 
priest) so there is probably more than one female pool as 
well. Also I keep hearing refences to a pool of Drowned 
Akane? Is this from the manga or a fan addition to the 
continuity?

Rick
rik@cfanet.com