On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Redneck Gaijin wrote:

Somebody else wrote...

	Not only did you end up sending a fic with a busted header through
the list, you even managed to make PINE barf it up, and my ISP bitched at
me when Pine CORE DUMPED!!

Hmm... pine 3.95 under Solaris 2.5.1 here. Handled the thing fine. 
Something ate a few bytes on the "Content-type:"&"Boudary" headers and
turned the message in pure-crap(TM), pine couldn't read it, but it didn't
coredump and didn't do anything worse than displaying an error message in
the headers (turn full headers mode - "h"). 

I just deleted the offending message and expunged it from the mailbox.

	Come on.. it can't be that hard.. simply convert your fics into
straight ASCII text and past them into the body of the mail, okay? That
way, it'll look like you typed the entire fic into the email as standard
text, and no one's mailer will complain.

Unlikely to fix anything. The error was in the headers area. Of course, if
he hadn't sent a multipart/mixed MIME message to start with, the error
might have never happened, but that's a lame excuse. Just get a better
email program or a newer version.

	Please? I got a VERY angry call from my ISP when PINE aborted like
that, and they were rather unhappy about the 2.5 meg core dump that ended
up in the main directory.

Then they should know better about how coredumps happen. And setup an
automated core remover. Or disable core dumping at all if such a thing is
possible in their brand of Unix...  you should be getting mad at your ISP
for sloppy techinical expertise, and bothering you for no reason at all.

Try setting "limit coredumpsize 0" in your .cshrc file if you're running
tcsh/csh, or add ulimit -c 0 in sh...

Stuff THEY (the ISP) should have done in the system-wide cshrc if they
don't like coredumps.

And for calling you to complain about only 2.5 MB of core ?!!  Here these
things are never smaller than 8MB, and are always lurking on far worse
places than an easy-to-spot main directory.

Here's something you will almost never hear me consider...

All in favor of having 'Emperor' Stephen permanently banned from the list,
raise their hands.

*raise*

Nope. Just make him get a better email program. And get mad at YOUR email
program for geting crazy over a pretty simple error in the message format.

Banning somebody over sloppy mailers (on *BOTH* ends) is not a Good Thing
to do. 

Redneck (locked up my Eudora, fortunately Netscrape was able to excise the
festering sore in my mail queue)

So Eudora is as crappy as whatever version of pine that choked on the
thing.  Complain to whoever makes Eudora about crappy error handling, get
a new version of pine... or wait until the next lockup happens.

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  Henrique Holschuh <henriqmh@dca.fee.Unicamp.br>