Subject: [FFML] Re: [fanfic][ranma]Bedlam Fire Chapter 5
From: allyn yonge
Date: 12/17/2000, 4:55 PM
To: Gary Kleppe , ffml@fanfic.com

Hi,

Comments @@





-- Gary Kleppe <kleppe@mediaone.net> wrote:

Here we go again. Lotsa punctuation stuff ahead; the

rest of you might

want to just skim through and look for the jokes. :)



@@Hey, my punctuation's pretty funny. ^+^



Quick review of how to punctuate quoted dialog,

since that seems to be

the biggest source of trouble. Compare these two

examples:



@@Good examples. Thanks.

I DO try. Really. <sigh>

My wife think's I'm just

a little simple-minded because

I can't do this stuff. (OTOH SHE

doesn't understand how organo-phosphate

pesticides affect neuro-tranmitter/receptors)



<SNIP. Some REALLY concise and clear

examples of punctuation that _should_ be clear even

to me. (And they ARE. I understand it when

someone shows it to me. It's just trying to

SEE it when I'm writing it. ) Oh well, back

to the drawing board.



Allyn Yonge <ayonge@yahoo.com> wrote:



    "Ask Nabiki." Ranma grumbled, wincing as his

split lip



Nabiki," (assuming he's grumbling those words, as

opposed to grumbling

after he says them)



@@Ummm, I'd never thought of that.

Uhhhhh, I _think_ I meant he was grumbling

the words, but he could be grumbling after he

said them.

    "Oh, quit being such a baby," Akane couldn't

seem to



baby."



stop grinning. "are you a man or aren't you?"



"Are



RANMA: I *am* a man! I'm just out of sorts because

my period's this

week!



@@LOL



<SNIP>



     Normally he was of the opinion there was no

problem

that couldn't be solved by ignoring it. Or better,

letting it

become someone else's problem.



That's selling him pretty short. Ranma quite

frequently tries to solve a

problem once he figures out that he *has* one.



@@Hmmmm . . . yes, I see what you

mean. OTOH, he doesn't "take the bull

by the horns" to solve problems. And I don't 

expect him too. It's not a Japanese

trait, for one thing. (at least according

to my _limited_ reading on the subject.)

AND from my, limited again, contact

with Japanese nationals (in this country)

And that's pretty much what

I was using for this bit.

However . . .



Yes, I can see thatRanma DOES try to solve problems,

once he figures out he has a problem

Of course, his "solutions" are sometimes

"counter-productive"? I factored that into

this bit.

On the assumption that Ranma is NOT

stupid, but is, rather a 16-17 year old

Male (which some might consider 

synonymous with stupid) who

has had a rather "narrow" upbringing.

I'm of the opinion that Ranma usually

understand that there is a problem, but

not exactly what or how to fix it.

I'm also assuming that Ranma KNOWS

that he doesn't know . . .and therefore

often ignores or pretends to ignore

problems, hoping they'll go away.

{Example:: pretending to be Ranko.

Ranma HAD to know that was a "limited" 

fix of his "mother" problem,at best. I think

 he just ignored potential pitfalls, hoping the 

problem would go away

or solve itself. (which it did, in a way))



<SNIP>

fair to the old guy to temp him with stuff he can't

have."



tempt



HAPPOSAI: That's what I keep telling all these

women! How can they be so

cruel as to wear such lovely undies around me and

not let me fondle

them!



@@LOL.



<SNIP>

    "Someone?" Ranma had a bad feeling about this.

Only a

certified psycho would _voluntarily_ visit the old

freak.



AKANE: *I'm* visiting him voluntarily, Ranma.



RANMA: Um... y'know, present company expected.



@@ROTFLOL.

I only wish I could fit this into the story.





    "No more chances, old man," the honey smooth

voice



man." The honey-smooth



made the absolute hatred all the more powerful.

"I'm tired of

playing. I'm going to kill you, but if you give me

a new name,

I'll make it quick."



HAPPOSAI: Okay, you're Garter-belt Taro! Hah! And if

you kill me now,

that's your name forever!



@@Oh, OH! STOP! ROTFLOL.

You're killing me.

I'd have to re-write the entire story to

fit this in, but it would almost be worth it.

Ohhhhh, my sides hurt.



<SNIP>





    Inhumanly fast, Tarou grabbed her by one

starched

sleeve and flung her against the wall. "Don't

interfere in things

you don't understand."



NURSE: You mean like logarithms?



@@LOL.

I'm not sure why I bother trying to write.

This is MUCH better than the original.

<BG>

Maybe from now on I should just

send you the draft and let you MST it.



<SNIP>

    Without pausing Tarou kicked up with his free

leg,

tearing free of Ranma's grip as he flipped in the

air to land

facing his opponents. The hospital guards, having

no idea of

what they were facing, pushed past Ranma, intent on

doing their

duty. Unfortunately this wasn't like the fights

they'd seen in the

movies, or even like their training. Real fights

are fast, brutal

and the first blow to strike home ends the fight

with death or

crippling injury.  They didn't understand this, but

Tarou did.



This reads rather like direct author explanation.

Could the point be

made through one of the characters' internal

narrations instead?



@@Excellent point. I tried that. Didn't 

really like the result. It too a lot longer

and seemed to slow the action more than

was acceptable.

I went with this only after checking with

some of my favorite writers (David Weber, Micky

Spillane, Laural K. Hamilton, etc) and they use it.

Of course, they're better writers, so I may 

have just flubbed it.



<SNIP>



training. Unfortunately Tarou was reading from a

different

book.



PANTYHOSE: See spot. See spot run. See spot beat up

some orderlies.



@@LOL. LOL. LOL <oh help>



<SNIP>



    Akane had almost enough time to register

Tarou's

words before he slammed her against the wall with a

powerful



word	(it's only one)



@@Yeah, I thought about that one. Tried "word", but

it "sounded" funny, so I kept "words". I'll go back

and

look at it.

<SNIP>

the blow

she took hitting the wall, heading toward the

sounds of a fight,

all the way muttering under her breath,

"bakabakabaka

baka . . ."



NURSE: Note... must note on Ms. Tendo's chart...

patient suffering

from... gratuitous fanfic Japanese... uh. [thud]



@@<BG>

But, I tried "idiot", "stupid", "fool", etc. and

none worked as well as "baka"

And, according to the Japanese girl in the ESL

class my wife teaches, there isn't a good

English equivalent to "baka" (it took her

about a week or two before she could 

even hear the word w/o blushing)

I still don't have a good feel for "baka"

but it's GOT to be a good fit for Ranma. ^_^





******************************************************



    Tarou Pantyhose was having a surprisingly hard

time of



Isn't it "Pantyhose Tarou?"



@@I'm not sure. I looked on the Internet, but

got confused about what was proper.

 I'm certainly willing to change it.

(I went with Ke Lun and Mu Si, even

though every other e-mail is to tell

me I've made a mistake. ^_*)



<SNIP>



    "Jian Yao Guai means death," Ke Lun hissed,

her face

twisted in a grimace of fear and loathing. 



SHAMPOO: What Great-grandmother talking? Chinese

word for "death" is

"Siwang!"



@@<VVBG> LOL.







<SNIP>

trunk sized thigh. The giant grunted in annoyance

and swatted at

the girl, as if she were a pesky fly. But like a

fly she wasn't

there and the blow was wasted on empty air.



And she's a poet who doesn't know it. (The

accidental rhyme there is a

bit awkward. You even got the meter to match up.

^_^)



@@I had to read that passage six times before I

figured out what you were talking about.

I'll change it. 



<SNIP>

her eyes. "for a pervert named after women's

underwear." She



"For



AKANE: o/~ And all the fighters say, he's pretty

fly, for a pan-ty. o/~



@@<BG> 

Well, even it no one likes the original,

your C&C is worth the price of admission.





<SNIP>



cameras



    "She's . . . green?" Ranma watched wide-eyed

as

Akane darted in and around Tarou, like a sparrow

fighting an

eagle. "Why is she green?"



RANMA: I know! She musta ate her own cooking!



AKANE: What was that, Ranma?



@@<BG> Another one I wished I dared put

into the story. LOL.



<SNIP>

    "My sister was never green until _you_ showed

up."



up,"



Nabiki countered with implacable logic.



RANMA: Yeah, well, my hair was never red until this

fanfic thing

started. At least not that anybody could notice. So

there.



@@I'm tempted to do a fanfic on hair-colour.

Hmmmm, maybe I could fit it into

my "Happy Magical-Girl Lesbian's

take over Japan" story. (I just noticed

one day that ALL Magical Girls

in Japan seem to be lesbians. HAPPY

ones, at that. Must be something

in the water. 



<SNIP>



    "Great-grandmother, what is it?" Shan Pu was

torn



KE LUN: It's a female relative three generations

removed. But that's not

important right now.



@@Must--fight--urge--write-- Leslie----Nielsen

into----plot.



    "Great-grandmother, what is wrong?" Shan Pu

had

never seen the ancient Amazon like this before. If

she didn't

know better she would think Ke Lun was afraid.



Isn't Shamps the least bit curious about Akane's

green-ness?



@@Hmmmm . . .I missed that one.

Well just have to assume that she'd

MORE distracted by the thought

of Ke Lun being afraid of something. ^_*



<SNIP>

ground, whirling it one handed like a giant spear.

Tarou



one-handed



    "Kill her. Kill Jian Yao Guai!"



RANMA: Us?



COLOGNE: Yes, you. I'd help, but... um, my favotire

soap is on in five

minutes.



@@^_^



<SNIP>

offered an incentive. "Kill it and I give you Shan

Pu to wife."



SHAMPOO: Oh? Then what *I* get?



COLOGNE: You help him, and I give you Mu Si to kill

as well.



SHAMPOO: Okay, that fair.



MOUSSE: At last, an arrangment that will satisfy us

both!



    "Truly?" Mu Si squeaked over Shan Pu indignant

protest. 



IMO, he ought to have a stronger reaction to this.

At last! The

fulfillment of my life's hopes! Oh, Shan Pu, I'll

make you so happy!

Happy happy joy joy!



@@OH, my ribs. ^_^

actually I DID have  stronger reaction from

Mu Si, but decided that it might be

too slap-stick and went for under-stated.

It's an easy fix, I could go back and 

"Punch up" his reaction.



<SNIP>

laws of the Amazon nation were confusing and often

contradictory. But, like any predatory pack,

outsiders,

especially fertile females or potent males were

driven off or

killed, lest they pollute the gene pool. Only the

strong could be





You've got some weird blank lines in here. This is

one of them.





@@Did it cut off after "strong could be...."?



It's fine in my copy (on this end.)

It should read::



Somewhat shakily Mu Si nodded. The customs and

laws of the Amazon nation were confusing and often

contradictory. But, like any predatory pack,

outsiders,

especially fertile females or potent males were driven

off or

killed, lest they pollute the gene pool. Only the

strong could be

allowed to breed. So the young boy was prepared, in

theory at

least, to kill an outsider female. 



<SNIP>

    "Potty mouth." Akane opened her fist and Ke

Lun

dropped in a heap to the ground.



MU: Hey, it's my potty and I'll cry if I want to!



@@<GROAN!!!>



KE LUN: "Forget the Jade Daemon! It's

the Kleppanator-PUN for your life!"



<SNIP>

Still pretty heavy with fight scenes,

@@Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention this

last time. I was _trying_ to do

things in threes (death, life, power)

Ukyou, Shan Pu, Taro in this case.

Three-ness is supposed to be a recurring theme.





 but we're

getting into the thick

of the plot now. Lots of interesting possibilities

ahead as the cast's

loyalty to Akane gets put up against the need to

destroy the green

thing.

@@Thank you.



Looking forward to the next part if your hardware

holds out that long :)





@@^_^ There's a Bubblegum Lemon in that line

someplace. But I'm not going to write it.





For those interested (and a few seem to be)

in some of my characters being

distracted by trivialities in the midst

of life and death struggles . . .it's all

based on real life.

For example, Karamojo Bell (Ivory Hunter)

was once tossed by a Rhino. His first

thought, upon getting to his feet, that he'd

torn a nail off his finger and that it hurt

terribly. Then he noticed his native bearers

looking at him in horror. He looked down

ans saw that the Rhino has ALSO ripped

his chest open to the ribs and it looked

like a bloody bag of ground meat. ^_^





Again, thank you VERY much for reading

AND taking the time to comment. It means 

a lot. (I also think I hurt myself when I fell

out of my chair laughing. But it was worth it.)



Thanks.

^_O







Gary Kleppe

http://www.akane.org/gary/comics.html





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