[FFML] [Fic][Ranma][Pokewomen][Crossover][Dark][Lemon]No TurningBackPrologue 1
David Nolen
kthardin at tenchifanart.com
Tue Sep 2 20:23:22 PDT 2008
Jon Rosebaugh wrote:
> Let me get this straight.
>
> Akane's perspective is that, in the Pokegirl world, she is expected to
> acquiesce to being owned. To being treated as a piece of property, to
> be used as her master wills. To be REQUIRED, not just by society, but
> by some screwed up biology, to spread her legs for someone who just
> had the luck to be born with XY chromosomes, on a regular basis, just
> to remain sentient and semi-sane. (Though how long any civilized
> person could remain sane in such a society is uncertain.)
Did you come from the AFC forums by any chance? I've not sen this level
of willful disregard of reading comprehension since I left that
hellhole.
Let me repost since you didn't read it the first time:
This particular section reminds me of the rhetoric spewed by your
average member of Code Pink or the NOW gang that tend to lump all men
together as potential rapists. That any and all sexual thoughts by a
man towards a woman (Akane is actually a poster child for this
mentality...not that she doesn't have cause admittedly, but I find the
circumstances she finds herself in to be just a hair shy of the odds of
a supernova spontaneously erupting in your front yard) is both immoral
and unnequivally unnatural despite all the millions of years of
evolution the contrary. That for a women to love a man is just a form
of the man enslaving the woman, and she needs to be saved from
themselves. In fact, would wipe out the male of the species at first
viable opportunity.
I again note, I was taking it in a more real world context where
pokegirls don't exist, but girls with these viewpoints do. In that
context, this isn't just a demand for equal rights, this is everything I
already mention from Man Hater's inc. I took it in the more real world
context because of the original ultra liberal progressive smackage your
prologue had, and such points of view are invariable enmeshed in that
paradigm. Since you seemed to be writing a further allegory and
propaganda piece, I figured you'd continue doing so, only using this
context to make your point.
I admit the possibility I've taken it too far. I'd appolgize if so, but
I don't think you give a goddamn at this point, and to be honest,
neither do I.
I said your section REMINDED me of that particular viewpoint, and I
projected it upon the full chapter you posted, and now I've told you
fully why this was done. Now, if you wish to continue in the context of
the story, I could probably successfully argue that the girls can rail
against their fate all they wish, but their basic biology will take
over; their objections, moralizations, or determination be goddamned.
It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong by any measure we could apply.
Now, there's a story to be made about pokegirl rights, if you want, but
it's going to have to be done in the context of what they are and what
they need. What their rights are will not be the same as the
requirements for what our rights are here in the United States.
> She doesn't like this expectation. She doesn't like it at all.
Good enough.
> And to you, this simple desire for BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS is somehow
> equivalent to ultra-feminist misandry? Good god, man, THINK about what
> you're typing before you hit send.
No, that's not what I said or implied. I find I'm wasting far too much
time in explaining a viewpoint that is obviously too alien for you to
comprehend, so this will be the last time if you didn't get it.
Accuse me of what you want; I'm done here.
K'thardin
"Prime told me there'd be days like this."
-Bumblebee
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